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Canada should issue a Cold War Victory Medal to its military

Legion Magazine
June 2007
There are numerous medals that make up the Canadian Honours, Awards and Medals system. People are awarded medals for a variety of reasons. It could be for participation in an event or action (United Nations peacekeeping tour); it could be or performing a duty of a specified period of time (Canadian Forces Decoration for 12 year service); it could be for heroic actions (Victoria Cross or Star of Courage); to recognize an achievement (Order of Canada); or just for to commemorate an event (Queen’s Golden Jubilee Medal).
One medal that has been overlooked is one to recognize the Cold War, the longest continuing military operation in western military history. Generally recognized as having lasted from September 2 1945 until December 26, 1991, the Cold War was not just a theoretical concept or just a catchy phrase describing a period of time, but was a real war. Militaries around the world were kept on a high state of alert for any impending attacks. It was a large-scale military campaign that prevented a third world war, most likely a nuclear one at that, through deterrence and worldwide strategic military deployments.
If that’s not enough, the Cold War did have actual battles. The Korean War is regarded by many as the first battle of the Cold War. If that’s still not good enough, in the 1960s the Soviets had a battle plan drawn up that would have directly engaged NATO forces in Europe. The Soviet plan would have included a diversionary attack the bulk of NATO forces in north Germany, while the main bulk of the forces would cross from Austria, into Switzerland and eventually onto Paris.
Other campaigns such as the Vietnam War, The Bay of Pigs and the Cuban Missile Crisis were conflicts within the Cold War. Operations such so as Quemoy-Matsu, Korea 1966-74, Berlin 1961-62 and humanitarian rescue missions such as the Congo (1964), all took place during the Cold War. The Korean War was stopped by a truce in 1953 and since that time, armed troops, aircraft and ships have remained active to maintain the peace. The Korean War is often described not just as “the forgotten war”, but as a war that never really ended. The threat from communist North Korea continues even to this day.

The Cold War was also the largest troop deployment to counter the Soviet and Warsaw Pact military threat. NATO maintained numerous armed troop divisions in Europe and Asia to counter the Soviet and Warsaw Pact divisions. Regular missions were carried out to demonstrate retaliatory capability; reconnaissance of hostile territory was regularly conducted; ICBM and Air Defence radar networks were established, including The DEW Line, The Mid-Canada Line and The Pinetree Line, the 3 early warning lines that once stretched across Canada.

Even communist insurgencies in Central America necessitated an armed response by NATO nations.

In the United States and Canada, the strategic defence of North America and Europe called for vigilance and devotion to duty. Military personnel always had to be on guard against surprise attack; one that fortunately never came. Even peacekeepers throughout the world were required to stay combat ready.

In 2002, the United States Congress approved the Cold War Victory Medal. However, this medal remains an unofficial, strictly commemorative military medal and is not presently authorized for wear by currently serving military members, except the Louisiana National Guard.

That said, the American Legion, AMVETS, the Veterans of Foreign Wars Association, the Reserve Officers Association of the United States and Combat Infantrymen’s Association all endorse the Cold War Victory Medal.

I believe that anyone who served in the Canadian Forces, regular or reserve, for a minimum of 3 years during the Cold War, should be eligible to receive a Canadian Cold War Victory Medal.

Now in the interest of disclosure, I am a former naval reservist and conveniently, I would fit in with this time frame. I joined in June 1987, giving me approximately 4 1/2 years Cold War service. I’m not simply trying to give myself another medal; in fact I don’t care about medals for medals sake. Make it a minimum of 5 years so I would be ineligible; make it 10 years, or 20 years. Make it available only to full-time members. The time frame or employment status are not as important as recognizing things that deserve to be recognized.

Bottom line, I believe a Canadian Cold War service medal is warranted.

About the author

Bruce Forsyth

Bruce Forsyth served in the Royal Canadian Navy Reserve for 13 years (1987-2000). He served with units in Toronto, Hamilton & Windsor and worked or trained at CFB Esquimalt, CFB Halifax, CFB Petawawa, CFB Kingston, CFB Toronto, Camp Borden, The Burwash Training Area and LFCA Training Centre Meaford.

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  1. Hector

    The Korean War was the Korean War, not the Cold War. It was from 1950-1953, Mr. Forsyth served in 1987. Vietnam was 1955-1975, Mr. Forsyth served in 1987. Bay of Pigs was in 1961 & in Cuba, Mr. Forsyth served in 1987. Medals are earned on the battlefield, not behind a desk. All of the nuclear tests were before his time. Did Mr. Forsyth get shot, once, twice, three times, break any bones, earn any black belts from Vietnam or Korea? Has he ever been in a firefight & had his eardrums blown out by AK’s? Any Russian KIA’s? If Mr. Forsyth has a Cold War Medal, it is a Class 1, 3rd Being highest. He might have one in defense only, but I wouldn’t wear it. To earn that kind of medal “here”, it takes getting shot, breaking bones, KIA’s, firefights, & earning black belts through actual fighting. He would have to climb the tallest mountain in Canada & dive the deepest lake in Canada to really wear it. He would have had to have been mountaineer ready to climb Everest or the tallest mt. in Russia. Give it him, & no.

    1. Bruce Forsyth

      Thank you for stopping by my web site and for you comments. While I do understand your point, I think you misunderstand my point. I’m not saying that I specifically deserve such a medal and make note of that in the last paragraph. All I am saying is that the Canadian government should consider creating some sort of a Cold War service medal and award it to those deemed worthy of receiving such an honour. I may not be deserving of such a medal, but there are many, many current and former service members who certainly are deserving.

      Also, there are numerous military medals out there, both past and present, that do not require combat service to qualify for them.

  2. Curt Shalapata

    Hector has missed the point of the Cold War medal. Military medals in Canada are issued for all sorts or reasons. The General Service Medal for South West Asia (GSM-SWA)was issued for 30 days service supporting those troops who are serving in Afghanistan and getting shot at. Yet those who received the GSM-SWA were likely serving in Turkey, Qatar or Bahrain, were never in harms way and never heard a shot fired in anger. Like wise those who received the Operational Service Medals did so for service in areas under dangerous circumstances ( however one wishes do define it) or for delivering humanitarian support for Third World countries who get hit by a hurricane. For some reason these people deserve a medal yet those who served faithfully in Canada during the Cold War get no recognition for their service beyond the CD and only if they serve the required 12 years. Recognition for home service in the defense of Canada during the Cold War is long over due as is humanitarian service in Canada. There should be a bar issued for the Special Service medal to recognized those in the CAF who participate in Aid to the Civil Power operations in Canada. .

    1. Bruce Forsyth

      Hi Curt,

      Thank you for your comments and for stopping by my web site. Pass the word.

    2. Barry Willis

      I concur.Also, Canadian soldiers and all military personal get a medal for being in for 12 years. No mountain climbing involved. Also, by his definition, those in WW 1 and 2 who worked as mechanics, aero-engine techs, cooks et al don’t deserve a medal either…

      1. Bruce Forsyth

        Hi Barry,

        Thanks for stopping by my web site and for your comments.

        Bruce

  3. Wayne Bonney

    Hi Bruce…I totally agree on this…we served.

    1. Bruce Forsyth

      Hi Wayne,

      Thank you for stopping by my web site and for your comments.

      Bruce

      1. Bruce Forsyth

        You should also read “Canada should issue a Canadian Volunteer Service Medal” from my “Unpublished Newspaper Articles” section. I’ve never thought that Canada should issue medals like Halloween candy, but perhaps one day there will be something more than the CD for in country service for those deserving of such an honour.

  4. jim murphy

    i am x 2rcr airborne pioneer served with nato in germany – ended up with major hearimg loss and severe tinnitus – maybe that deserves a medal – good luck in your quest

    1. Bruce Forsyth

      Hi Jim,

      Thanks for stopping by my web site. I don’t really believe the medal will ever come to be, but you never know.

      Bruce

  5. Jim HANDS

    FYI, federal MP Carol HUGHES is now working on this by way of a Private Member’s Bill:

    http://carolhughes.ndp.ca/hughes-says-support-is-growing-for-cold-war-medal-across-canada

    1. Bruce Forsyth

      Hi Jim,

      Thanks for stopping by my web site and thank you for the information. I wrote to Carol to express my support.

      Bruce

      1. Jim HANDS

        Great; if you send me a e-mail address I will send you the ballot and perhaps you can distribute it as widely as possible in your social networks, or post it here.

        Thanks,

        Jim

  6. Capt Canuck CD

    This private member Bill still awaits Royal Accent in Parliament

    1st Session, 41st Parliament,
    1re session, 41e législature,
    60 Elizabeth II, 2011
    60 Elizabeth II, 2011
    house of commons of canada
    chambre des communes du canada
    BILL C-354
    PROJET DE LOI C-354
    An Act respecting the establishment and award of a Defence of Canada Medal (1946-1989)
    Whereas the Cold War, which lasted from June 1946 when Sir Winston Churchill made his famous Iron Curtain speech until the fall of the Berlin Wall in November 1989, shaped the lives of the many men and women who served in the Canadian Forces, police organizations, national survival organizations, such as the Emergency Measures Organization, and civilian assistance organizations, such as St. John Ambulance, and who assisted in their efforts to defend Canada;
    Whereas it was the role, voluntarily assumed, of these men and women from all parts of Canadian society to protect and maintain the survivability of the nation’s people and its democratic way of life;
    Whereas their efforts and sacrifices have not been formally recognized;
    And whereas the Government of Canada wishes to institute a Defence of Canada Medal (1946-1989) for these men and women to retroactively recognize their dedication and support;
    Loi prévoyant la création et l’attribution de la médaille de la défense du Canada (1946-1989)
    Attendu :
    que la guerre froide, qui a commencé en juin 1946 au moment où sir Winston Churchill a prononcé son célèbre discours sur le rideau de fer et a pris fin en novembre 1989 lors de la chute du mur de Berlin, a façonné le destin des nombreux hommes et femmes qui ont servi dans les Forces canadiennes ou les corps policiers, ou qui ont travaillé auprès d’organisations de survie nationale — telle l’Organisation de mesures d’urgence — ou d’organisations d’aide civile — telle l’Ambulance Saint-Jean —, et qui ont contribué par leurs efforts à défendre le Canada;
    que le rôle de ces hommes et femmes de toutes les couches de la société canadienne, qu’ils ont assumé de façon volontaire, était de protéger et de maintenir la capacité de survie du peuple et de son mode de vie démocratique;
    que leurs efforts et leurs sacrifices n’ont jamais été officiellement reconnus;
    que le gouvernement du Canada souhaite instituer la médaille de la défense du Canada (1946-1989) à l’intention de ces hommes et femmes afin de reconnaître rétroactivement leur dévouement et leur soutien,
    Now therefore, Her Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate and House of Commons of Canada, enacts as follows:
    Sa Majesté, sur l’avis et avec le consentement du Sénat et de la Chambre des communes du Canada, édicte :
    SHORT TITLE
    TITRE ABRÉGÉ
    Short title

    1. This Act may be cited as the Defence of Canada Medal Act (1946-1989).
    1. Loi sur la médaille de la défense du Canada (1946-1989).
    Titre abrégé

    INTERPRETATION
    DÉFINITIONS
    Definitions

    2. The following definitions apply in this Act.
    “Medal”
    « médaille »

    “Medal” means the Defence of Canada Medal (1946-1989).
    “Minister”
    « ministre »

    “Minister” means the Minister of National Defence.
    “service”
    « service »

    “service” includes time spent in Canadian air space and in Canadian territorial waters but excludes time served

    (a) outside Canada during the period 1946-1989 in employment with such organizations as the NATO forces in Europe;

    (b) in Alert, Nunavut; or

    (c) as a member of any peacekeeping mission in which Canada was involved, including the Korean War.
    2. Les définitions qui suivent s’appliquent à la présente loi.
    Définitions

    « médaille » La médaille de la défense du Canada (1946-1989).
    « médaille »
    “Medal”

    « ministre » Le ministre de la Défense nationale.
    « ministre »
    “Minister”

    « service » S’entend notamment du temps passé dans l’espace aérien canadien et dans les eaux territoriales canadiennes. Est exclu de la présente définition le temps passé :
    « service »
    “service”

    a) à l’extérieur du Canada au cours de la période de 1946 à 1989 dans le cadre d’un emploi au service d’organisations telles les forces de l’OTAN en Europe;

    b) à Alert, au Nunavut;

    c) en tant que membre d’une mission de maintien de la paix à laquelle a participé le Canada, y compris la guerre de Corée.

    MEDAL
    MÉDAILLE
    Design of Medal

    3. The Governor in Council may determine the design of the Medal and its associated ribbon.
    3. Le gouverneur en conseil peut déterminer le modèle de la médaille et de son ruban.
    Modèle de la médaille

    Purpose and award of Medal

    4. (1) The Medal may be awarded by the Governor in Council to any Canadian citizen or permanent resident with a minimum cumulative period of three years of service in one or more of the following organizations during the period commencing on June 1, 1946 and ending on November 30, 1989:

    (a) the Canadian Forces and Regular Force, as well as their predecessors: the Royal Canadian Navy (RCN), the Canadian Army (Regular) and the Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF);

    (b) the Canadian Forces and Reserve Force, as well as their predecessors: the Royal Canadian Naval Reserve (RCNR), the Canadian Army (Militia), the RCAF Auxiliary and the Canadian Rangers;

    (c) police services that were trained and engaged in national survival and counter-espionage;

    (d) provincial and municipal organizations whose role it was to protect the civilian population or render social and medical aid during a nuclear attack;

    (e) recognized civilian organizations that undertook National Survival Training and stood ready to apply it in case of a national emergency; and

    (f) the Canadian Coast Guard.
    4. (1) La médaille est attribuée par le gouverneur en conseil, à sa discrétion, à tout citoyen canadien ou résident permanent qui compte une période cumulative de service d’au moins trois ans, au cours de la période commençant le 1er juin 1946 et se terminant le 30 novembre 1989, au sein de l’une ou plusieurs des organisations suivantes :
    Sens de la médaille et conditions de son attribution

    a) les Forces canadiennes et la Force régulière ainsi que leurs prédécesseurs : la Marine royale du Canada (MRC), l’Armée canadienne (régulière) et l’Aviation royale du Canada (ARC);

    b) les Forces canadiennes et la Force de réserve ainsi que leurs prédécesseurs : la Réserve de la Marine royale du Canada, l’Armée canadienne (milice), la force auxiliaire de l’ARC et les Rangers canadiens;

    c) les services de police ayant reçu une formation et travaillé dans le domaine de la survie nationale et du contre-espionnage;

    d) les organismes provinciaux et municipaux qui avaient pour fonction de protéger la population civile ou d’apporter une aide médicale ou sociale lors d’une attaque nucléaire;

    e) les organisations civiles reconnues qui ont mis en oeuvre le Programme national de formation à la survie et qui se sont tenues prêtes à l’appliquer en cas de situation de crise nationale;

    f) la Garde côtière canadienne.

    Single award

    (2) The Medal is not to be awarded more than once to the same person.
    (2) Nul ne peut recevoir la médaille plus d’une fois.
    Attribution unique

    Excluded persons

    (3) The Medal is not to be awarded to a person within a class of persons excluded by the regulations.
    (3) Il est interdit d’attribuer la médaille à quiconque fait partie d’une catégorie de personnes déclarées, par règlement, inaptes à la recevoir.
    Exclusions

    Posthumous award

    5. (1) The Medal may be awarded posthumously.
    5. (1) La médaille peut être attribuée à titre posthume.
    Attribution posthume

    Next of kin

    (2) Where a Medal is awarded posthumously, it is presented to the next of kin specified by the person in whose name it is awarded or, if that next of kin is deceased or cannot be readily located, to the person best suited, in the opinion of the Minister, to receive it.
    (2) Lorsqu’elle est attribuée à titre posthume, la médaille est présentée au proche parent désigné par la personne à qui elle est attribuée. Si celui-ci est décédé ou ne peut être joint facilement, la médaille est présentée à la personne que le ministre estime la plus qualifiée.
    Présentation à un proche parent

    Awards Ceremony

    6. In order to acquaint younger Canadians with the historical period that the Medal covers, when an award is made, a ceremony must, whenever possible, be held in the presence of family members and the media.
    6. Afin d’informer les jeunes Canadiens sur la période historique que représente la médaille, la cérémonie de remise a lieu, dans la mesure du possible, en présence des membres de la famille et des médias.
    Cérémonie de remise de la médaille

    Wearing of Medal

    7. The Medal is to be worn in accordance with the Canadian Order of Precedence of Orders, Decorations and Medals.
    7. La médaille est portée en conformité avec l’ordre de préséance canadien des ordres, décorations et médailles.
    Port de la médaille

    Nomination by Minister

    8. (1) The Minister must nominate for award of the Medal those persons who meet the qualifications prescribed by the regulations and who are members or former members of the Canadian Forces.
    8. (1) Le ministre propose à l’attribution de la médaille la candidature des personnes qui satisfont aux conditions réglementaires et qui sont ou ont été membres des Forces canadiennes.
    Présentation de candidats par le ministre

    Nomination by Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

    (2) The Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness must nominate for award of the Medal those persons who meet the qualifications prescribed by the regulations and who are members or former members of a Canadian police force.
    (2) Le ministre de la Sécurité publique et de la Protection civile propose à l’attribution de la médaille la candidature des personnes qui satisfont aux conditions réglementaires et qui sont ou ont été membres d’une force policière canadienne.
    Présentation de candidats par le ministre de la Sécurité publique et de la Protection civile

    Nomination by another Minister

    (3) Any minister of the Crown may nominate for award of the Medal any person who meets the qualifications prescribed by the regulations and who is serving under the administration of the minister of the Crown or in a program under the administration of the minister of the Crown.
    (3) Tout ministre fédéral peut proposer à l’attribution de la médaille la candidature de toute personne qui satisfait aux conditions réglementaires et qui relève de l’administration de ce ministre ou d’un programme soumis à son administration.
    Présentation de candidats par un autre ministre

    REGULATIONS
    RÈGLEMENTS
    Regulations

    9. The Governor in Council may make regulations

    (a) respecting the qualifications of persons or classes of persons who may be awarded the Medal;

    (b) prescribing classes of persons who are excluded from entitlement to a Medal;

    (c) specifying how the Medal is to be presented;

    (d) respecting information relating to the application process; and

    (e) prescribing persons who may be considered as next of kin.
    9. Le gouverneur en conseil peut, par règlement :
    Règlements

    a) régir les conditions auxquelles doivent satisfaire des personnes ou catégories de personnes pour être admissibles à l’attribution de la médaille;

    b) déterminer les catégories de personnes inaptes à recevoir la médaille;

    c) préciser la façon dont la médaille sera remise;

    d) régir les renseignements relatifs au processus de mise en candidature;

    e) désigner les personnes qui peuvent être considérées comme proches parents.

    Prerogative not affected

    10. Nothing in this Act limits the right of the Governor General to exercise all powers and authorities of Her Majesty in respect of the Medal.

  7. Peter Hillcoff

    Why do you exclude members of the militia that prepared for the Cuban missile crisis prepared to die or kill for Canada..

    1. Bruce Forsyth

      Hi Peter,

      Thanks for stopping by my web site. I’m not excluding anyone who honourably served during the Cold War in any capacity or any campaign within the Cold War period. However, this is an old article and it has since been suggested that an updated version of the Canadian Volunteer Service Medal (last issued during WWII) should be created as a way of honouring service personnel who do not serve long enough to earn the CD. I would be more inclined to support a CVSM, perhaps with specific bars such as one for the Cold War or any other campaign/mission not already covered by a medal, as it would have a wider reach. Until then, I guess we have to standby to standby.

      Bruce

  8. Doc Knight

    Thanks Bruce, for writing this article. Cold War Acknowledgement is long overdue, as is a Canada Volunteer Service Medal 1946-1989. This is of vital importance to the respective Regimental Associations, each of which contribute vital dollars to assist the current-serving Regiment…particularly, with the Reserve Force. Also, those comrades of ours who were killed while on duty and have been routinely “forgotten” by the government of Canada – especially, those members who were short of three years service – should also receive the medal, as those deaths predate the sacrifice medal and would be the only acknowledgement TO THEM of their service, the MEMORIAL CROSS and MEMORIAL RIBBONS notwithstanding.

    Canada does not have a license to “forget” our Cold War Volunteer service, or our Dead.

    1. Bruce Forsyth

      Hi Doc,

      Thanks for stopping by my web site and for your support of this idea.

      Bruce

  9. Jim Lewis

    Hi Bruce
    I totally agree in the creation of a Cold War Service medal. I served Reg force Navy for 6 1/2 years on both coasts in the early 80`s and totally contributed 110% until I was released with a service related condition. At no time during my service was I ever shot at and these are the men and women I personally concider True Veterans. That being said, little has ever been mensioned of the 3 Canadian ships that were put on notice to assist the UK in the Falklands Conflict (not a Cold War conflict I Know! ), I was on HMCS Gatineau at the time which was 0ne of the 3 ships. After loading munitions and storing ship we were “Stood Down’ 3 days prior to sailing for the Falklands. I am also 8 days short of qualifying for the Nato SSM medal. Many times we played “Silly Fucker” with other Russian ships that could well have escalated into a far worse situation.I feel some sort of recognition is due from Canada for the many men and women that served and made sacrifices during this period. just my humble opinion

    1. Bruce Forsyth

      Hi Jim,

      Thanks for stopping by my web site and for sharing your story. If not a Cold War medal, there should at least be a new version of the Volunteer Service Medal. As for the SSM, I understand that there has to be a line drawn somewhere for medal eligibility, but 8 days!! When you’re that close it hurts! It’s too bad that some unit/ship couldn’t employ you to “untangle a ball of twine” for those 8 days.

      Bruce

      1. Jim Lewis

        Hello again Bruce.
        I am sitting here in the early hours of rememberance day feeling kind of bitter. After my service in Reg Force Navy and 8 days shy of my SSM, wondering what is going on with this Cold War Service medal. Has the Bill died or is anyone still pushing this? Rememberance Day and nothing that shows I Serviced !!! That sucks

        1. Bruce Forsyth

          I don’t recall if there was ever a bill for a Cold War Medal. You might be thinking of the proposed updated version of the Canadian Volunteer Service Medal (I wrote another article about that medal – http://militarybruce.com/canada-should-issue-a-canadian-volunteer-service-medal). I haven’t heard anything more about it. I’ll e-mail the MP who proposed it next time I get the chance.

          If you get this e-mail before you go to a service, I’d wear your old beret if you still have it (or try to get a replacement one if you don’t). I usually wear mine at military services. My understanding is that you should get official permission from the nearest base commander to wear it, but the advice I got from a retired REME Sergeant was that as long as you won’t be doing any media interviews, it’s not likely that anyone would really care.

          Bruce

          1. Jim Lewis

            Thanks Bruce
            I might order another beret for jus such an occasion. I saw a guy in my small town wearing a Peace keeping Beret. in this Hick town nobody is none the wiser. Went to the legion afterward, My Home Friggin town, sat alone and had a beer , not so much as a “Shit,High or Good Bye”. Thank You J.Lewis

  10. Alexander Murphy

    Bruce, I commend you on bringing this subject to light, in my opinion as Canada is a volunteer force why not a
    volunteer medal for all serving . You can still have the C.D for the ” Goody Goody two shoes who were never charged for a misdemeaner or a crime deserving detention barracks ,! well I should have said deserving or not.
    all the CFVM need have on it is a bar with Canada on it. I. myself do not have the CD I HAVE MY OWN THOUGHTS ON THAT. after serving 14 years and 4 months
    All the handwringing and crocodile tears that you hear in the house when our forces are going over seas is a sham these people couldn’t care less but when a junior rank is asked a question by a Politian what he thinks about the decision he must answer in the affirmative as he has been for warned before going on parade
    Just last week I was having a discussion about this self same subject and two of the veterans were dismayed by the fact that they in the army did not get posted overseas, they both did three or more years but less than twelve, You could tell they were still dismayed and Pissed off. Canada is the only country I can think of that doesn’t have a volunteer medal for their forces. SO LET’S PUT THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE— NO CFVM —
    NO SUPPORT FOR ANY PARTY WHO DOES’NT WHETHER IT BE PROVINCIAL OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THERE ARE ENOUGH VETERANS OUT THERE TO DO EXACTLY THAT.
    Thank you for allowing me to express my and others like me to express our views
    ALM

    1. Bruce Forsyth

      Hi Alexander,

      Thanks for stopping by my web site and for your comments. I can understand that some may feel that by giving a service medal such as a CFVM after only 1-3 years will turn us into a military where every private has a medal “just for showing up”, or it will become a “I passed basic training, but haven’t done much else” medal. I disagree with that but as a compromise, perhaps the CFVM could be given out at the same time as the CD or when the person releases, whichever comes first.

      Something to think about.

      Bruce

    2. Bruce Forsyth

      Hi Alexander,

      I didn’t look at the article that your were talking about as I have written 2 on this subject. You should check out the other article that I wrote, advocating for a CFVM like you are proposing too.

      http://militarybruce.com/canada-should-issue-a-canadian-volunteer-service-medal/

      Bruce

    3. Alexander Murphy

      Why not
      is this an attack on freedom of speech

      1. Alexander Murphey

        Sorry Bruce, I’m not a computer whiz, I believe my message got mixed up or gone somewhere else
        what I wanted to add was that the people I spoke to were not the sick lame or the lazy who didn’t finish
        depot training or released as medically unfit which was baggage they brought with them
        what they were saying is they were back here in Canada supplying support for those pilots who flew
        back and forth across the sea by re-fuelling loading every thing the troops needed — that goes for all ground crews Army Navy & Airforce and all training cadres of all of the services.
        thank’s again Bruce for allowing this time to vent

  11. John Fefchak

    +1 more
    Dear Minister Hehr;

    Thank you for your response, in regard to recognition for Canadians who served during the Cold War era.
    However, it seems to me that this would be your job as our representative to do this work on “behalf” of the veterans of Canada?
    Prime Minister Trudeau’s office advised me in Oct. 6, 2016 that this issue was forwarded to the Portfolio of the Minister of Veterans Affairs.
    ( re: portfolio…… “the responsibility or role of the head of a government department”)

    With that, and on behalf of veterans, I am hopeful that you will undertake the role and responsibilities that you accepted, when sworn in as The Minister of Veterans Affairs, and the mandate presented to you by the Prime Minister, in this particular and significant matter.

    Lest We Forget.

    Yours Truly,
    A cold War Veteran.
    John Fefchak. (CWO retired) 6 Feb. 2017.

  12. Bill

    Canadian Ranger receive the CD for twelve years service and the SSM for being in the Rangers after 180 days this is a bit of load They don’t do any thing different than the rest of the CF. The members that have done their first engagement contract should receive the defence medal. Canada is very cheap when its time for supporting the CF. Defending Canada takes all of us and little tin shows every one that person did their part.This would be great but the GG has no time for it or the rest of the MPs A bit negative but here we are Bill

    1. Bruce Forsyth

      Hi Bill,

      Thanks for your support, but I’m not hopeful either.

      Bruce

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